On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 07:01:47PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
Changes to the Free System Distribution Guidelines (GNU FSDG¹) are
discussed on the private gnu-prog-discuss mailing list. To me, this
raises a couple of concerns regarding the process:
1. several distros are committed to the FSDG and I think it’d be nice
to give them a chance to chime in;
2. it looks as if the changes could get in without the FSF’s
involvement, although the web page states it is maintained by the
As co-maintainer of GNU Guix, I see a third concern (speaking only for
3. Guix is committed to following the FSDG, but OTOH this process is
at odds with the transparency and decision making by consensus Guix
has always sought.
I suppose few people on this Assembly are directly involved in a
distribution, but I figured my concerns could equally apply to other
processes and projects.
Thanks for raising this issue. Doing such processes in secret on
non-public private lists without input from the actual stakeholders
seems odd indeed.
Last year we already raised this issue in our open letter the the FSF:
We understand that traditionally the FSF has used the gnu.org
domain not just for the GNU project, but also to facilitate other
programs of the FSF. We would like to see a better separation
between pages maintained by GNU volunteers and FSF staff
maintained pages for other FSF programs.
Specifically we like to give pages maintained by the FSF Licensing
and Compliance Lab like the Free Software Definition, License
List, Free System Distribution Guidelines and other FSF Compliance
programs on which the larger Free Software community relies a
special status or redirect them to the fsf.org
Lets raise this issue again. The FSF finally has a new president, so
hopefully they are a bit more responsive this time around:
(I figured it’s also a way to say hi! to all of you. :-))
Yes, good to see some activity on this list again. The pandemic was
not good for my, and I assume others, enthousiasm. Things are a bit
better around here now. But life is far from normal. Hope others are
BTW. This week various GNU Toolchain people are coming together using
a fully free BBB platform. https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/linuxplumbers2020
So people might be a little busy right now.
> ¹ https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html